http://www.thepsychfiles.com/2008/09/episode-71-horse-sense-or-nonsense-clever-hans-is-alive-and-well/ Psychology podcast and resources for students and educators Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:43:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 http://www.thepsychfiles.com/2008/09/episode-71-horse-sense-or-nonsense-clever-hans-is-alive-and-well/comment-page-1/#comment-2256 Ruth Eyrich Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:54:33 +0000 http://www.thepsychfiles.com/?p=191#comment-2256 In this episode you shortly talked about a motivational trainer and him pushing your arm down. This reminded me on the film about our German team handball team, when they became world champions in 2007 here in Germany. They had a motivational trainer, who wanted to show them the effect of positiv and negative thinking of oneself and the people around you. I don't know how that worked but one of the players was standing in front of the others with his eyes closed and the trainer just showed thump up or down for thinking positivly or negativly. Then he pushed the arm down. When he shoed the thump up, the arm didn't go down and when the thump showed downward and everyone was supposed to think negativly the arm just went down, when he pushed. He repeated that three or four times. How did that work? I thought, maybe the trainer didn't push so hard. Or has this anything to do with the fans pushing their team? I know, that there are some studies about that: home teams winning. And I just looked up the winners and the first two runner ups at world champions and European champions in soccer and team handball. The hosting teams are one of these three in about 90%, even if they aren't that good in this sport. (One of the exceptions was the USA soccer team in 94. :) ) Maybe you could do an episode on that. Thanks, Ruth In this episode you shortly talked about a motivational trainer and him pushing your arm down.
This reminded me on the film about our German team handball team, when they became world champions in 2007 here in Germany. They had a motivational trainer, who wanted to show them the effect of positiv and negative thinking of oneself and the people around you. I don’t know how that worked but one of the players was standing in front of the others with his eyes closed and the trainer just showed thump up or down for thinking positivly or negativly. Then he pushed the arm down. When he shoed the thump up, the arm didn’t go down and when the thump showed downward and everyone was supposed to think negativly the arm just went down, when he pushed. He repeated that three or four times. How did that work? I thought, maybe the trainer didn’t push so hard. Or has this anything to do with the fans pushing their team?
I know, that there are some studies about that: home teams winning. And I just looked up the winners and the first two runner ups at world champions and European champions in soccer and team handball. The hosting teams are one of these three in about 90%, even if they aren’t that good in this sport. (One of the exceptions was the USA soccer team in 94. )
Maybe you could do an episode on that.
Thanks,
Ruth

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